A psychologist, a philosopher, and an anthropologist walk into a Podcast.

We hope to offend anyone that holds entrenched views, pop some bubbles, air out some echo chambers, see if we can tackle familiar controversies, while trying to find a third way.

The principle of this podcast is simple. We maintain that any time someone has trapped their thinking in a false dichotomy (Left vs. Right, Us Vs. Them, Good vs. evil...) then they’re reducing conversation to a competition, oversimplifying and preventing dialogue by limiting what could be a rich and nuanced conversation.

Season 4 Episode 9

Lucky Dip: NFTs, Hobbies, and Comfort

The original crew each brings a topic, and we have a good old chat.

Great fun.


Season 4 Episode 6

What do Anarchists and Marxists Have in Common?

Some say the left have no unity!


Yet Toby and Chris had the pleasure of discussing the nuance in the differences between Marxist and Anarchist thought from Comrades: Brenton Lengal (Snow White Zombie Apocalypse, & Buenaventura Durruti), and Duncan Moore and Ryan Aldred (National Committee of the Socialist Party).


We managed to avoid it descending into a confrontation, and an inspiring discussion was had.

Season 4 Episode 7

Are Monarchies a Threat to Democracy?

We debate the merits and pitfalls of democracy and abolishing monarchies with Jacob from BigYellowPraxis and Underrated/ Overhated


Check him out here

Season 4 Episode 8

African American Trump Voter

Pat's political observations are as passionate as they are astute. He voted for Trump the first time, but was disillusioned as yet another President failed to exact any real change.


Chris, Paul (Southern Podcast Authority) and Brent (Snow White Zombie Apocalypse) joined him for a debate on Centrist Vs. Left Wing politics.


We were all surprised by how much we had in common.


Four people from different political perspectives agreeing on the problems of the current political system, instructs us all about the need for Beyond Binary discussions.


Check out the following links for more: https://brentonlengel.com/


Season 4 Episode 5

Will China Rule the World Better than America?

Is the Chinese Dream starting to crack at the seams? Last time we talked China, we discussed the silk and belt road initiative and how China is buying up debt world wide. It seemed like they had a 100 year plan, and "The West" was falling apart.

Now it seems like everyone is equally struggling.

We talk to two Americans (including Connor from the Prove Me Wrong, Please podcast) who have lived in China for several years. To discuss whether China will rule the world better now the US is fading as a superpower.

The discussion was impressively nuanced, and took a few fascinating turns.

Season 4 Episode 4

Beyond the Blockchain Hype and Cynicism

Peter Kris has built several successful startups in the block chain, and has a no nonsense, plain speaking approach to demystifying what is often an unnecessarily jargon filled space.

What's overhyped? Where are the risks for retail investors? Why does it use so much energy? And what are some practical applications for blockchain technology that will actually help transform the internet of money from an investment bubble to a practical tool?

Find out more about Peter's work at: https://mangata.finance/

Season 4 Episode 3

Moral Dilemmas

The OG crew get weird and discuss traditional moral dilemmas such as the trolley problem, whether you should speak up at a wedding if you don't think the couple should marry. If our moral revulsion to certain acts is evolved, when is that instinct helpful, and when is it not?

Season 4 Episode 2

Transformative Realism for Politics with Marc Saxer

Breaking through the tired culture wars with a third approach.

German Political Analyst and Strategist Marc Saxer bring his experience in Asia and a unique perspective on how to transform Western politics.

If Neo-Liberalism is dying, why has the Left failed to capitalize on it? How can climate change activism become more effective?

We get into Identity Politics, the Culture Wars, and why polarized activism gets cancelled out by its tribal polar opposite.

How can we break out of our political gridlock, and change the things that need fixing?

Season 4 Episode 1

Beyond Buddhist Sectarianism and Dogma

We discuss the need to avoid religious dogma on the path to enlightenment and Nirvana. A fascinating exploration of Buddhism from two perspectives often presented as conflicting opposites. What does Buddhism have to teach us about history, philosophy, our reality, history, and ourselves.

Hear more from Brenton here:



Season 3 Episode 12

Is Religion Damned? Is it Worth Saving?

Starring Matthew Distefano of the Heretic Happy Hour.


As America joins most developed nations with Church attendance no longer a majority activity, we ask: Is organized religion doomed, and what's worth saving?


Matthew Distefano has been a shining light in a church that seems to have lost its way. Jesus was a person of color, killed in an act of state violence, but how often is moral leadership seen from those who would claim religious authority?


Pablo and Chris share their experiences of why religion is worth saving.




Season 3 Episode 13

Space Travel and Extraterrestrial Communication

From the Fermi Paradox to Dyson swarms, the gang talks is joined by our resident science expert to discuss gravity assists, solar sails, recent developments in astrophysics, and the final frontier.

What's the chance of life on other planets? How easy would it be to communicate with them, and would we want to?

Music from Art-X & Sumac Dub (free download at odgprod.com)

Season 3 Episode 14

You're Either a Feminist or a Misogynist

Feminists often assume you’re either with them, or you're wrong, and


IMHO this is a a big reason why many fail to be persuasive.

However, Becs, my favorite and most charming Feminist friend was willing to come on for another round, and persuade me otherwise.


At the halfway point, we get into INCELs, and true and false claims of sexual harassment, and violence.


A history of and a future for misogyny and misandry.


This conversation is not for the faint of heart, but needs to be had more often.


Season 3 Episode 10

The Future of the Labour Party

After a decade of a party split by New Labour centrists, Momentum, Jeremy Corbyn, Brexit, and terrible election results, what is next for the Labour party in the UK?

We're joined by a superbly well informed guest to dive deep on how the Labour party can rebuild, and come back stronger.

Season 3 Episode 11

Colonialism's Legacy and Consequences

Leftube's rising Solarpunk Anarchist Saint Andrew delivers impactful essays on the problems and needs to go beyond Colonialism's legacy, and the inequities it continues to promote.

We discussed the history and future of European Colonialism, and the backlash all of its critics face. If there is no winding back the clock, how do we move forwards?

A superbly passionate and optimistic conversation on a topic that people are often too uncomfortable to dive deep on.
Music by: salmontheghost


Season 3 Episode 9

    Do White Opinions on Black Lives Matter?

Featuring Ranting Minority and Rosario Blue

An American and British Perspective on modern racism, and why so many continue to argue at every opportunity against the Black Lives Matter movement.

How racist is it to deny the existence of systemic racism? Aren't things better than they've ever been?

Are terms like White Supremacy, Fragility, and Privilege helpful to dialogue?

What can White People do to ally themselves in the struggle against racism?

Is racism a bigger problem in America, or are they having a more open debate than in Europe?

Check out linktr.ee/RosarioBlue and youtube.com/user/kdavis081 for more!

Season 3 Episode 8

Futurology: Reading the Tea Leaves

The Crew Get Optimistic About the Future

We predict the end of the housing crises, the globalization of healthcare as a human right.

and AI taking over from short-sighted middle managers, and leading us into space


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